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Real Chemtrails

 

This page has been set up to comment on one of America's would be politicians who credits conspiracy theories.

Name? David Jon Sponheim. See here.

Captain Joe on "Chemtrails"

5 Chemtrail arguments totally busted.

Contrails page

America's Third Party.

End the Use of GMOs, Fluoride in Water, Chemtrails and forced Vaccinations

He claims to have studied meteorology, so should be clued up about contrails.

Atmospheric conditions determine whether or not contrails show up and how long they last. It is even possible to see different pockets of air as a plane flies along. Ground air conditions are also very likely to be different when a lot of contrails show, but it is not possible for anything to reach the ground from them at the same time.

High bypass turbofan engines DO produce contrails. The more efficient ones actually produce more contrails. The entire chemtrails idea is bogus. There are no tanks on passenger jets and no ground support facilities at any airport. Weather radar videos purporting to show resulting weather modifications are nothing of the kind. Sponheim blocked me again today (July 11th) claiming he mutes but doesn't ban apart from severe cases.

Dane Wigington - The source of a lot of this material.

Do Dane Wigington's theories stand the test?

Analysis of his 10 "bullet points.

Bona fide genuine Chemtrails and fuel trails.

Note - All the examples are at LOW level, not at thousands of feet! Note that the trails START at the plane wing.

There is no gap between engine and trail which indicates CLEARLY that water vapour is condensing and freezing in all the airliner photos. There are some airliner fuel jettisoning photos where the fuel trail does start at the wing.

See this video.

Crop spraying plane.

Crop spraying plane.

Below - Spraying ro combat West Nile Fever.

Spraying defoliant during Vietnam war.

Below see the clear gaps showing how the water vapour from the engine exhaust condenses and freezes.

This image to the right claims to show "different types of trail". Two identical planes flying in the same direction at the same time?

Two planes flying in different atmospheric conditions photoshopped onto the same image!

 

Check this out with the included video.

The video factual explanation.

If chemtrails existed there would be high concentrations of the supposed chemicals on the ground under the take-off flight paths at airports. Where is the evidence for this?

Producing hundreds of photos taken under busy air routes as Wigington does proves that the trails are STILL UP THERE, whatever they are made of. Nothing has reached ground level. The only thing they may do is reduce the level of sunlight and other energy reaching the atmosphere below them. This only may happen under the flightpaths, not between them.

1. West Coast America atmospheric pollution stems from Asian sources, not from "spraying"

2. Ok, let's assume chemtrails do exist. Where are the chemicals stored on the planes? In the fuel you say? If not, where else?

3. If the chemicals are in the fuel then there should be huge concentrations of the chemicals on runways and under take-off paths. Where are the studies of this?

4. Claims such as "there are chemtrails over me - I feel ill" - er the contrails are thousands of feet above you. Have you allowed for any wind etc? Sorry it doesn't compute.The trail can't be above you and also at ground level.

And now to the matter in hand.

geoengineeringwatch

Random or flightpath contrails.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ is a website with the topic of altering the planet in some way. There have been attempts to encourage rainfall etc - A bit hard if the RH of the air is too low in the first place! These arguably would be beneficial.

The site refers to creating chemical patterns in the atmosphere for various theoretical reasons (all of which could only be very short term). It is illustrated by numerous, obviously totally random contrail patterns.

Actual real chemtrails and contrails.

Link to video at YouTube

One story claims modern jet engines do not make contrails. Er how? They all burn the same fuel in essentially the same way, so produce the same exhaust gases. Even turboprop planes make them.

The contrail Lie

I am not convinced that there is any such spraying going on.

Where is evidence of ground facilities to load such chemicals onto all aircraft as this video claims?

The video claims that ALL passenger jets use the turbofan engine "incapable" of producing contrails, and that almost all the trails we see are chemtrails. If that is so, where are the tanks on the planes and the ground facilities employed to fill up the tanks? There is no evidence of either. Crashed planes would reveal the presence of such equipment. There is none.

The air is also supposed to be too dry. Well, water is being locally added to very cold air. It freezes obviously. Sublimation to vapour can occur slowly or quickly. Sometimes the trail spreads widely as the ice crystals persist, forming cirrus clouds.

Aircraft sometimes need to lose fuel to reduce emergency landing weight. That needs nozzles to do it! Every plane needs to be able to do that.

Facts about High Bypass Turbofans

The exhaust from the engine which drives the fan is the source of the water which makes the contrails.

The more efficient the engine, the more likely the contrail is to form.

To put it simply. Dane Wigington is LYING! The si called switching sprays off and on are simply localised variations in atmospheric conditions. These are often in regular patterns, as are some types of clouds.

Both the trails in the photo below are contrails. They are clearly at different altitudes.

Below are the facts. Sorry Wiggy you are a LIAR.

More on contrails

5 stupid things about "chemtrails"

 

None of the cabin images here are of "Chemtrail" planes. There are NO such planes.

Misused photos

Testbed plane cabin photo

Click here to see a whole site of aircraft test photos.

Meteorologically flawed comment.

http://knightstemplarinternational.com/2016/

“It cannot be jet exhaust either since normal jet fuel contrail dissipates within seconds after the aircraft has passed.” Incorrect - It depends on conditions.

Pardon? The contrails clearly follow flightpaths, usually at different levels for obvious reasons.

“Research shows that barium salts have the capability to receive and conduct radio waves.

“What’s interesting about barium salts is that chemtrails are sprayed in straight lines across the sky – usually in multiple directions.

“Sometimes it even looks like they’re playing tic-tac-toe in the sky!

“This tic-tac-toe pattern creates a grid. The barium salt radio wave grid then becomes a giant antenna, which can be used to send and receive data.

Page created 5th September 2020. Last edited 9th September.