Hamas, Hezbollah etc. They must STOP rockets etc and TALK. I am adding to this page to include current events. Scroll down to see this.
	There HAS to be a 2 state solution and total cessation of rocket and other fire into Israel   Any comments are appreciated. Send them here. 4

Both the above mentioned organisations spend a lot of money on offensive weapons to attack Israel undiscriminately as they deny its right to exist. "From the river (Jordan) to the sea, Palestine shall be free." That is a chant by Hamas suggesting they want the elimination of Israel. This ignores the archaeological FACT that in Jerusalem structures like the "Wailing Wall" are UNDER and clearly PREDATE the Islamic structures like the "Dome Of The Rock". The city was Jewish in the first case.

Hamas was elected in GAZA, but I am not sure how fair the elections were. They have suppressed opposition, often with violence. They have diverted aid funds and materials to create a network of tunnels under GAZA, including underneath hospitals and schools. They have also created and obtained thousands of various types of rocket which they fire frequently at Israel. The launchers shelter in amongst the civilian population and some rockets fail and fall into GAZA itself. Supporters should ask themselves why has Hamas not devoted efforts to improve security and shelters for the Gaza population. All they have done is do security for themselves. Everything else has increased the rists for the population which elected them!

The marchers in London and other places demand a ceasefire from Israel, but do not say Hamas should do the same, nor do they mention the hostages. Hamas has NEVER had a ceasefore of rockets. Also they make no mention of the October attack, which effectively declared war in the first place. That is what has provoked and enraged the more extreme elements in Israel, including the stand being taken by Netanyahu and the "settlers".

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In my opinion Israel has taken the sledgehammer approach to Hamas. FAR too many have died in GAZA, but Hamas could have stopped it. In my opinion Israel should have used drones to weed out Hamas, not highly destructive bombing. That is too blunt an instrument. The West should stop the supply of such weapons. Israel should STOP "settler expansion" on the West Bank, and actually begin to remove some of them and allow Palestinians to rebuild there. That area is NOT part of Israel. The Hamas attack in October spurred on "settler" activities. Get the UN in there, with force if needed. The "settler" process is illegal.

Donald Trump waded in with a suggestion which seems to have encouraged the Right Wing Zionist element in Israel and sadly seems to have encouraged Netanyahu to be much more extreme. The ceasefire Trump managed to get in place encouraged many Palestinians to move back North to what remained of Gaza City. Then Trump suggested that the area was a demolition site and that the population should be moved to the surrounding countries to allow Gaza to be rebuilt as some crazy Trump resort. Effectively forced depatriation from the area the people were returning to and WANTED to live there. Now Netanyahu has ended the ceasefire, has cut of support aid for weeks and is apparently intending to CLEAR the area, and control it, starting in the North. There are Israelis who want to build "settlements" there as well! Hundreds are being killed again by heavy bombing of supposed "Hamas infrastructure etc" which has somehow been re established. The IDF claims to give warnings etc, but clearly the innocent women and children are dying in hundreds.

In Parliament this week Foreign Secretary David Lammy has called out the Israeli policy as totally unacceptable and so has Kier Starmer. The Conservative Opposition appears to disagree. Well frankly I disagree with them on this matter. Starmer has made some moves against Israel and should, I feel do more, including withdrawal of some military support. Donald Trump should do the same. Removing Hamas is just not possible without unacceptable loss of innocents as they use powerful explosives. Calling them "precision" is a load of B,S.

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Both are backed by the regime in Iran which represses its own people, especially women,enforcing internal policies which are not mentioned in the Koran. Both have attacked Israel with repeated random rocket fire. Israel was NOT firing on Hezbollah areas in Lebanon until they began firing heavily on October 8th.2023. There was no "Zionist aggression" to speak of in that area.

In 1947 the region was divided up into both an Israeli and Palestinian state. Much of the Israel allocation was actually desert. The Israelis accepted these boundaries (which were far from being ideal), but the Arabs did not and began to attack the Israeli defined areas. They were defeated and people were displaced. They do this repeatedly.

The result was a change in boundaries and a great deal of population movement. It also gave rise to "settlements" by Israelis in some of the extra land. The UN should have blocked this and all successive similar expansion and displacement. It has failed to do so. I clearly appreciate that the Palestinian and other Arabs have a strong case against this process, yet repeat the violence over and over.

The maps above show the situation on October 7th. Note the absence of large settlements in the South - The Negev desert area originally.

Just after the Hamas terrorist attack.

Somehow the Israeli intelligence failed to pick up on what was clearly a terrorist invasion, mostly violating Koran rules of war on who should not be targeted. It was barbaric in the extreme as their own bodycam video etc showed only too clearly. Those demonstrating for a ceasefire should NOT ignore this. Hamas can NOT be allowed to regroup. They even deliberately use civilians to shield themselves.

In 1946 the area where the name Palestine is is mostly desert. Most of it was allocated to Israel in the UN plan, which they accepted.

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